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Sunday, January 13, 2008

Cross Communications

It appears even if we sent the following letter to the Home Office, we would be likely to get the one after in return.

Dear Ms Smith,
Having reneged on the police pay agreement determined by the Negotiating Board, the police hereby declare war on you, your office and all connected with your dastardly operation. We will not rest until your political blood is smeared on the ramparts of 21st Century justice.
Yours in disgust,
The Police.

Dear The Police,
Thank you for your letter which was read out to me by my trusted adviser, Mr L.I.E. Incorrigible. I am thrilled to say that now we have happily agreed a most satisfactory 2007 pay deal, I am looking forwards to lots of snuggly times ahead curled up in the arms of your good selves. Mutual respect and admiration shall be the byword of our relationship for years to come.
Yours forever,

Somehow, the Home Secretary seems to think we've agreed to the recent pay deal. Anyone up for a stroll in Westminster in a couple of weeks? What would happen if we stormed the main chamber - do you think the Met would drive us back with batons or join in?

Copyright of PC Bloggs.


Blogger Emma said...

Thats because they make everything up as they go along...let's storm Westminster..x

13 January, 2008 19:29

Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an ordinary MOP I have nothing but admiration for the Police and disgust at the actions of the Government in reneging on the arbitration decision. If, as the media states, it was the intention of the Government not to abide by any arbitration decision, long before the arbitration process began and thereby costing the taxpayer several thousands of pounds in wasted effort, doesn't this make a prima facie (or should it be faecial)case of the Home Secretary committing the offence of obtaining peciniary advantage by deception?

13 January, 2008 19:47

Anonymous Bourne said...

anon, that law has been repealed by shedules 1 and 3 of the fraud act.

Get your point though.

13 January, 2008 19:53

Blogger Metcountymounty said...

given the current view of every single person in our borough that I've talked to, including DPG and palaces who look after parliament, I very much doubt there would be much resistance but I'm certain a bit of force would be needed to start with. That said though, it would be complete and utter meltdown for those on duty as the bosses would be absolutely shitting bricks for not doing everything they could to stop it - they have pensions and promotions to worry about of course.
Would that be the start of the counter revolution?? several thousand off duty and on duty police officers storming parliament?? it would certainly make a few world leaders consider if Gordon Brown has his own house in order.

13 January, 2008 21:10

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best watch out Metcounty Old Fruit -

- Sedition and spreading disaffection in the ranks is a
criminal offence.

Best shut up mate.

Really, you should.

Good boy.

13 January, 2008 21:50

Anonymous Jaques said...

Very effective format. Your range is evolving at quite a pace.

I really am impressed.


13 January, 2008 21:56

Blogger Metcountymounty said...

spreading sedition and disaffection? or commenting on already observed disaffection?

Have fun in your bubble cuddles, I'm going to be out seeing real events in the real world for a few more days.

13 January, 2008 22:29

Blogger PC Bloggs said...

jacques - lol, you really haven't been reading my blog for long have you...

13 January, 2008 22:38

Anonymous Lozzy said...

This is going to be the march to watch, as we see so very often for a few fleeting minutes on television news, many marches, protesting so many issues of a wide spectrum. What invokes the same thought on nearly every occasion is this, I doubt this commendable effort will have any effect whatsoever.

The people who can make the changes are the morally corrupt MP's who are insulated from real life in so many ways by their own doing and laws to feather their own nests. What would make them uncomfortable, they don't experience with their life style, and what might, they legislate to protect themselves against.

They all have the same smoke screen of, doing something for the public good but as we all know it is seldom done or achieved, as there seems to be some agreement on this, expressed in the many futile petitions signed and marches trodden against MP's in their inability to do right, and who are supposed to be representing the public.

Does anyone have any evidence that such peaceful weak protest ever achieves result. Unless the march as in poll tax protest degenerates into anarchy and violence, then I think not. When the people are forced into similar cries for government to listen as in miners strike then either the army or police are taken from their real roll to be abused as oppressors of the population by our cotton wool padded politicians.

I don't suggest for one moment a strike or other than peaceful march is desirable but I do think it is time a way was found to stamp down hard on MP's who blatantly are corrupt and twist the laws to suit themselves and their own interests whilst obviously not representing their constituents for a sensible and just reward.

I do wonder if the damage inflicted on our society and humanity by politicians of all colours is far greater than the entire prison population does. Think of all the unnecessary dead soldiers and all those millions of pounds thrown away overseas that could have fixed a thousand problems here at home in the UK.

Fix our own problems first, enable education, forced if necessary, to a level where all will wish to work and have a realistic opportunity to do so, that would cut crime hugely. Where as, we currently continue to produce an underclass which MP's find new ways every year to increase this segment of the population, thus over flowing the prisons. They then change all the targets, rules and laws to give lesser punishment to all in an effort to reduce the prison population, which in turn encourages even more disrespect of society and law, thus boosting prison population even further.

To police by public consent, the police need to represent the public for the publics safety, and not represent the failed politicians, as an oppressive body, who protect corrupt government. You have to disconnect yourselves before the eyes of the public from all those sleazy politicians at every opportunity and only show respect for those who truly deserve it as recognised by the vast majority of the population.

13 January, 2008 22:46

Anonymous Jaques said...

PC Bloggs 22:38 - yes you're right: I have not really seen very much of your "blog".

Previously, with the Latin tittle, I thought it poor form that you could not properly even cut and paste a quotation in its entirety.

(Admittedly, it was a language with which you were totally unfamiliar - but more reason to pay more attention to detail, no? Isn't such diligence supposedly part of your job description?)

Anyway, your efforts in attempting to improve the repertoire of your rhetorical devices are improving. Well done.

14 January, 2008 00:45

Blogger thinblueline said...

Chuck, Id let you in the back gate......

14 January, 2008 07:30

Blogger PC South West said...

This is worth reading!

14 January, 2008 11:41

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I keep getting the feeling you have some issues with the Met Bloggs, some feelings of inadequacy maybe? For what it's worth I was on duty at the CA demo and have never seen the level of violence that was used against police on that day before or since and I include in that several Maydays in the late nineties and early noughties and the Birmingham City v Millwall riot.
I'll be there on the day of the protest to show support but be under no illusion that whatever our personal feelings on the matter the law of rhe land is the law of the land, I don't pick and choose which laws I agree with and will enforce and if someone, anyone, chooses to flout the law when they arrive they will be dealt with accordingly.

14 January, 2008 13:42

Blogger WeePeeCee said...

I'd be right up for a stroll in Westminster. Unfortunately I'm working and the boss won't let any of us have the day off because, and it's no surprise, we're already alarmingly short staffed.


14 January, 2008 19:46

Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing which gives cause for concern is the probable actions by anarchists, yobs and New Labour Youth to disrupt the Police protest by causing trouble. The date of the march has long been known and this has given the above elements long enough to plan disruptive beahviour. Would the protesting Police ignore any criminal offences or would they, as their appointment dictates, take action against it?

14 January, 2008 21:22

Blogger News from Monday Books said...

I've emailed you re the project... check your msgs.

PS Anyone know what a Latin tittle is?

15 January, 2008 10:14

Anonymous PC Dave said...

Metcounty 22:29

You are NOT commenting upon other people's statements. YOU are explicitly advocating police mutiny.

(Granted everyone here knows that you're all gob and you've basically just lifted the plot from "v for Victory" - but you have committed a criminal offence. Best lie low in "real world" for more than a few days I thinks,mate)

15 January, 2008 10:33

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monday books- a tittle is a typographical term.

Surely a publisher should know that?

15 January, 2008 10:56

Anonymous Geek said...

Jaques, 'anon 10.56' and 'PC Dave' are one and the same person, folks, and you can take that to the bank.
Bloggs - I'm emailing you some interesting information about him.
By the way Monday Books, I suspect he meant 'title' (a tittle is the dot on a j or i).

15 January, 2008 11:18

Blogger Area Trace No Search said...

The met? We'll join in, of course...

15 January, 2008 12:53

Blogger PC Bloggs said...

geek - email not received as yet...

15 January, 2008 19:05

Anonymous Geek said...

Bloggs - coming any minute now.

We'll teach him to make fun of your cut-and-paste skills.

The brute

15 January, 2008 20:54

Anonymous Sasquatch said...

Many things will be fascinating about the demo on 23rd January. Unlikely to be any violence - police officers protesting are likely to be on their very best behaviour. Ditto the ones not protesting, but working the march. Although I can see how some members of the force may not sympathise with certain marchers and/or their beliefs (anti-war, anti-G8 etc.), I can't imagine how a serving police officer would be able to summon up any anger or aggression against fellow police who are marching to highlight poor pay for err... the police...

It'll also be interesting to see the media coverage, both traditional (BBC, Sky etc) and non-traditional (blogs, internet etc). Especially as there's a possibility that some of the non-trad. coverage might come from police on either side of the lines - marchers, and those assigned to police them. I bet a £10 donation to a charity of PC Bloggs' choice that the whole thing merits less than 30 seconds on the BBC 6 o'clock news, with less than 10 seconds of badly-shot close-up footage framed in such a way that it is impossible to see how big the protest actually was. You know, just like every other time they 'cover' a protest in London.

Also, it will be fascinating if they try to re-route it, divert it, ban it at the last minute, and any one of a dozen other petty tactics that have previously been used by the Met against, say, anti-war, or anti-G8 marches. What if they declare it an illegal march? Who's going to arrest all those police officers? And what happens if they resist? Who's going to be able to tell the difference between marchers in police uniforms and the marshals?

Oh yes, it has the potential to be a very interesting day.

15 January, 2008 21:00

Blogger Metcountymounty said...

Sasquatch, the route isn't going near the Socpa designated area so there is no reason for the met to try and re-route it or cancel it. The very numerous demo's that have been re-routed or cancelled are the ones where people have started to demonstrate inside the socpa designated area without informing the met that they intend to do so, as is required by socpa. The informing requirement isn't asking permission as there has to be a very explicit reason for rejecting the application (such as stated intent of violence etc) otherwise it is just a notification of an intention to demonstrate.

Where other demonstrations have been forcibly moved or stopped in the past outside the socpa zone (such as mayday 2003 where the protest was halted and boxed in, or kettling as the demonstrators themselves call it) it has been because of excessive criminal damage and violence shown in previous years such as the riots in 2001 and 2002 where there was significant violence and damage to memorials and shops.

Since the protest was halted in 2003, there hasn't been an attempt in London to try and have another disruptive and destructive mayday demonstration.
Despite lots of legal challenges the courts held that the police actions in boxing the protesters (and lots of other people who weren't part of the demo) were both legal and proportionate given the cost of damage and violence in previous years.

Personally, I think that the socpa designated area is a complete waste of time, its wasted more police hours (and cash) than was ever expended before in policing demos and it completely failed in getting rid of Brian Haw, which was the main reason the MP's brought the law in and they messed up by not making it retrospective.

Getting rid of Brian is no bad thing as having known him for a few years now, he's as mad as a box of frogs. They just went the wrong way about it, completely failed and brought in an undemocratic law in the process.

And guess who gets all the blame and bad press for complying with the legislation? that'll be the Police and not he MP's who drafted and passed it in the first place.

16 January, 2008 09:35

Anonymous Sasquatch said...

Metcountymounty - another useful and informative post. Looked up SOCPA on wikipedia - yes it does appear to have been a bit of a lashup. Thanks again for taking the time to explain things.

16 January, 2008 23:27

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the anti-war protest was held,they claimed to have 250,000,the Govt said Met figures indicated 80,000, who are they going to believe this time? The police or the police?

19 January, 2008 10:09

Blogger Metcountymounty said...

Not sure on that was as I wasn't there but I was told from some of the guys who did work it that they thought it was around the 100k mark and not as much indymedia etc reported it

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