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Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Overtime Survey.

In 2003 the Home Office declared that the police overtime bill must be cut by 15% over three years.

Since then we have had a war in Iraq, genocide in London, a G8 summit, an Olympic bid, numerous terror raids and bomb scares, a fire at a refinery, a tsunami, and three Home Secretaries.

Morale seems to be at an all-time low (see Essex Police), people are leaving the job left, right and centre.

Even in Scotland the situation has spiralled out of control.

Yet many forces continue to cut down on overtime even where it has become an essential factor in resourcing.

For my next survey, I ask:
"How much overtime are you working and are you happy about it?"

Please email or comment. The results to be published next week.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am working on average a paid day a month, occasionaly more. I am a custody skipper and the money is very useful. So the answer is yes I am happy with o/t as long as it is not excessive.
Good blog by the way

23 August, 2006 07:12

Blogger Two Passports said...

My husband usually dies abot 2-3 hours per day but takes it for time. But with things the way they are at the moment where he works I think you can pretty much do as much as is necessary.

23 August, 2006 09:52

Blogger Two Passports said...

Opps...I meant does. I am typing this while feeding my baby!

23 August, 2006 09:53

Blogger Noddy said...

1.1 - I could mention the 30 minutes unpaid overtime rule, but then that would be another topic.......

1.2 - Working 9,10 and 12 hour shifts as part of the set rota, who really wants to work longer days?

p.s. Two passports hubby really should get a special payment for his daily devotion beyond the norm and there was I thinking you ladies were good at multi-tasking!

23 August, 2006 12:42

Anonymous Anonymous said...

My working shifts vary between 9 - 11 hours, at this time i would love to be working some overtime (chrismas is on the way like it or not), however my current force have an overtime 'issue' so i get to do my 1/2 hour for the queen and then beg with a super to have any more, this leaves jobs to be handed over to other shifts and departments, stretching already minimal shifts and even offenders dearrested. So in an answer i want the money yet the force just wont give the funding. Somethings going to give

23 August, 2006 13:03

Blogger Joe90 said...

Genocide in London?

Did I miss something??

23 August, 2006 15:36

Blogger Noddy said...

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23 August, 2006 16:02

Blogger Noddy said...

I meant to ask what you meant by EVEN IN SCOTLAND?

I think you will find that G8 (and all that meant to the folk in Gleneagles, Auchterarder, Stirling, Edinburgh etc etc) visited north of the border.

23 August, 2006 16:03

Blogger PC Plod said...

I get the odd bit of casual overtime at the moment, but that's because I'm still training. Once I've got my independant status, I'll be putting in for more - I need the cash!

23 August, 2006 16:51

Blogger Officer Tackleberry said...

I think I'm one of the few people who doesn't wish to work overtime and usually only receive it as casual (with no way out) rather than voluntary. Sure, I volunteer for PSU duties but not regularly and certainly not for the money. Unfortunately I still end up picking up casual overtime on a regular basis. I begrudge it at the time and it doesn't usually make a big difference to my pay packet. I budget for a flat rate so don't really need the money and very very rarely volunteer for it - even then its usually to help a colleague, not to receive cash. I don't moan about incurring it but would prefer to finish on time. As per my blog, I've only recently started taking it as pay due to realising booking time off is extremely difficult when you have my staff.

23 August, 2006 18:29

Blogger Officer Tackleberry said...

Sorry I mean 'no staff'. I like my social time and feel its bloody well deserved. Even bank holidays aren't always my cup of tea (shock horror).

23 August, 2006 18:32

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going have to flippin' well work overtime now the 3% issue looks like it's going to go on and on and on................

23 August, 2006 20:41

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work 9 and 10 hour shifts, I don't want the overtime or really need the money however one of the shifts who are on when I need to hand over to avoid overtime are like teflon when it comes to dealing with jobs so after having an arguement with their sgts / insp I usually have to do 3 or 4 hours 1 or 2 days out of every set of shifts which comes from their budget.

23 August, 2006 22:57

Blogger ExtraSpecialCopper said...

albeit unpaid, a usual 9/10 hour shift often turns into 14 as resources are low. There have been occasions when there have been four outstanding grade ones and the only officer available is yours truley. Where was it I read there are more police officers than ever?

24 August, 2006 10:04

Blogger exRUCtion said...

Work 12 hrs day/night

O/T is usually 8pm to 4am fri/sat nights with the probationers being nabbed frequently to do .
I prefer only about 20 hrs max and do my utmost to avoid it .
it ain't easy !

24 August, 2006 13:42

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I average about 10 hours a week, not enough in my book, my girlfriend says im job pissed but hey me the money!!!

24 August, 2006 17:03

Anonymous sparky said...

I do around 10 hours a week. I need the money, the mrs wants to get married!

24 August, 2006 20:43

Anonymous Mark said...

I do about 40 hours a month, half CTO, half pay. I'm happy to work it, both for the money and because I can usually take time off when I need to. I work on a Tutor Unit which is very flexible.

25 August, 2006 12:36

Anonymous femalecop said...

I dont do that much overtome. Inspectors don't want to authorise for payment and we always work short staffed other than bosses getting people in to help out. The overtime i do do isnt really enough money wise (after tax gets taken out there isnt much more!) so have it on the card, which cos of staffing issues i dont get to take it anytime

25 August, 2006 18:20

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Young Mr Copperfield has a blog referring to the miner's strike. I was a proby at the time and wasn't allowed the opportunity of meeting the completely impartial Mt Scargill or his very, vert, faur cohorts. Instead I spent 5 months working 12 hours shifts - 6-6; 2-2; 6-10 (I think you get the drift). Bringing two pairs of Army DMS boots with me into the Police, I managed to wear both -pairs out, necessitating me to eat into my overtime payments to BUY a new pair of boots! After a while, you became used to the idea of shift patterns of this length and when the miner's strike ended, I found working a mere 8 hour shift quite difficult to come to terms with - the minute amount of money I susbsequently received at the end of the month did not help. Reading other's comments, it shows that nothing changes. The authorisities state that overtime must fall, HOWEVER, there is still the reuirement to provide a Police presence. The result is that so many officers stay on and do not claim overtime, which is just what the authorities are banking on. The answer is to claim for every single minute and then, when the budget runs out, let some other silly bugger, usually a senuior officer, sort it out. If they won't pay you, they can't make you work!

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